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Conversations about science, technology, history, philosophy and the nature of intelligence, consciousness, love, and power. Lex is an AI researcher at MIT and beyond.

Steve Wozniak co-founded Apple and designed the Apple I and Apple II largely on his own, turning the personal computer from a hobbyist toy into a mass-market product — so he is a primary source for the engineering-first origin story of Silicon Valley, not a retelling of it. He is also unusually candid for someone at that altitude: he famously shared his early Apple stock with coworkers, stayed out of the executive ladder, and has spent decades criticizing the incentive structures of the industry he helped create. A long-form conversation with him would give Lex's audience firsthand hardware-design history alongside a contrarian read on AI, privacy, and what tech optimists got wrong.

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    “Oooooh a 3-5hr long episode with Woz on Lex would be superb!”

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    1. Sep 29, 2026

      Nomination created

      🚀 Nomination created: Steve Wozniak built the Apple I and Apple II by hand and has spent recent years applying that engineering optimism to the question of what AI should and shouldn't be — a long-form conversation with Lex Fridman, an MIT AI researcher, would put the builder an…🚀 Nomination created: Steve Wozniak built the Apple I and Apple II by hand and has spent recent years applying that engineering optimism to the question of what AI should and shouldn't be — a long-form conversation with Lex Fridman, an MIT AI researcher, would put the builder and the researcher on the same recording. Wozniak's history is about giving people tools; the open thread is what he thinks those tools should now be.

    2. Sep 29, 2026

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      📡 Why now: Wozniak was among the signatories of the Future of Life Institute's March 2023 open letter calling for a pause on training AI systems more powerful than GPT-4, and he has kept arguing publicly that engineers owe the public plain talk about what they are building.

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    Apple co-founder has admitted he is 'disappointed' by AI Steve Wozniak said "I often read things, and they just sound too dry and too perfect, and I want something from a human being"

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    Viral post (22K+ likes) sharing Steve Wozniak's candid take on being disappointed by AI's 'dry and perfect' output and preferring human creativity—directly relevant to Lex's AI/consciousness discussions.
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    Here is my unique perspective on how AI will replace humans. So many fall in love with chatbots that they can't have human children wish. (humor?)

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    Recent post by @stevewoz himself (200+ likes) offering a humorous yet insightful perspective on AI potentially replacing human reproduction and relationships.
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    What Apple’s co-founder and the man who basically invented the home computer, Steve Wozniak had to say about Israel and Israeli tech. Right after this interview, there was an incoming rocket from Gaza and I had to rush him to a bomb shelter. Was a surreal morning.

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    High-engagement thread (600+ likes) with video of Wozniak discussing Israeli tech innovation and personal experiences, highlighting his thoughtful views on global tech ecosystems.
    Viral clip (50K+ views) of Wozniak's 2026 commencement speech praising 'actual intelligence' in humans over AI hype, earning applause—perfect for Lex's intelligence/consciousness themes.
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    Viral clip (50K+ views) of Wozniak's 2026 commencement speech praising 'actual intelligence' in humans over AI hype, earning applause—perfect for Lex's intelligence/consciousness themes.
    Recent exclusive interview clip where Wozniak discusses youth innovation, economic opportunity, and balanced views on AI hype vs. human intuition.
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    Recent exclusive interview clip where Wozniak discusses youth innovation, economic opportunity, and balanced views on AI hype vs. human intuition.

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    Blue Boxes, Phone Phreaking, and Hacker Ethics Then vs. Now

    Woz and Jobs built illegal blue boxes to hack the phone network before Apple existed — that origin story maps directly onto today's debates about AI jailbreaking, open-source models, and who gets to control infrastructure. Nobody connects those dots on Lex's show.

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