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Conversations about science, technology, history, philosophy and the nature of intelligence, consciousness, love, and power. Lex is an AI researcher at MIT and beyond.
Steve Wozniak co-founded Apple and designed the Apple I and Apple II largely on his own, turning the personal computer from a hobbyist toy into a mass-market product — so he is a primary source for the engineering-first origin story of Silicon Valley, not a retelling of it. He is also unusually candid for someone at that altitude: he famously shared his early Apple stock with coworkers, stayed out of the executive ladder, and has spent decades criticizing the incentive structures of the industry he helped create. A long-form conversation with him would give Lex's audience firsthand hardware-design history alongside a contrarian read on AI, privacy, and what tech optimists got wrong.
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Sep 29, 2026
🚀 Nomination created: Steve Wozniak built the Apple I and Apple II by hand and has spent recent years applying that engineering optimism to the question of what AI should and shouldn't be — a long-form conversation with Lex Fridman, an MIT AI researcher, would put the builder an…🚀 Nomination created: Steve Wozniak built the Apple I and Apple II by hand and has spent recent years applying that engineering optimism to the question of what AI should and shouldn't be — a long-form conversation with Lex Fridman, an MIT AI researcher, would put the builder and the researcher on the same recording. Wozniak's history is about giving people tools; the open thread is what he thinks those tools should now be.
Sep 29, 2026
📡 Why now: Wozniak was among the signatories of the Future of Life Institute's March 2023 open letter calling for a pause on training AI systems more powerful than GPT-4, and he has kept arguing publicly that engineers owe the public plain talk about what they are building.
Apple co-founder has admitted he is 'disappointed' by AI Steve Wozniak said "I often read things, and they just sound too dry and too perfect, and I want something from a human being"
Here is my unique perspective on how AI will replace humans. So many fall in love with chatbots that they can't have human children wish. (humor?)
What Apple’s co-founder and the man who basically invented the home computer, Steve Wozniak had to say about Israel and Israeli tech. Right after this interview, there was an incoming rocket from Gaza and I had to rush him to a bomb shelter. Was a surreal morning.


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The museum preserves the history of the Information Age, and Wozniak's foundational work on the Apple I and Apple II makes this interview a fit for their audience.