Get Demis Hassabis on Dwarkesh Podcast
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Nobel Laureate. Co-Founder & CEO @GoogleDeepMind - working on AGI. Solving disease @IsomorphicLabs. Trying to understand the fundamental nature of reality.
Dive into the cutting-edge worlds of technology and science with Dwarkesh Patel's meticulously researched interviews that bring together brilliant minds to unpack revolutionary ideas in AI, biotech, and beyond. Each episode delivers profound, thought-provoking conversations that challenge conventional wisdom and illuminate the paths shaping humanity's future.
Demis Hassabis just told CNBC that China’s top AI models are now only “a matter of months” behind the West, a blunt update that changes how policymakers, investors, and labs should act today. At the same time, Google is pushing his Gemini 3 work straight into Gmail as of January 8, 2026, rolling out AI Overviews and upgraded writing tools that will touch billions of messages immediately.
Catching him on the Dwarkesh Podcast right now means unfiltered detail on how Google plans to steer Gemini and multimodal systems this quarter, and what that means for U.S. competitiveness and AI safety. He has been on this show before, on February 28, 2024, so listeners can compare his past roadmap to today’s compressed timelines and shifting geopolitics.
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